The conversation begins with our attitude towards those playing dark roles in our world and the awakening process based on Source experiencing (it)Self through us. Beginning with 3D reality and moving into 5D, it's all about taking our power back, individually and collectively. Many of us would like to get out of the system we see as corrupt; and Bill shares how he did it. Ron acknowledges how easy it is to get caught in victim mentality; and Bill responds by saying that someone has to fight the fight, honoring Ron's role and seeing it as "for humanity" - not just for himself. They talk about thinking and feeling, fear, lack of trust and more. Bill thought the shift would happen between the harmonic convergence and the end of the 20th Century; but it's finally happening now. (NOTE: this is the first video where Ron edited out early parts of the conversation.)
