Josh interviews ECETI's James Gilliland on who in the UFO community is just in it for the money, the burden of proof (featuring photographs that James states are real beings that materialized at the ECETI Ranch) and who he believes will hold the most power in the near future. NOTE: The footage used in the psychedelic sequence is from the 2004 film Blueberry (Renegade), in this video it is attributed to the 2011 documentary "Plants of the Gods" which used the same footage.
